tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post6776449846842582915..comments2023-12-29T21:34:44.579-05:00Comments on Political Yen/Yang: Who Or What Can Be Blamed In The Giffords Shooting?LA Sunsethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00445498119590721449noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-31574263155844372322011-01-10T14:10:44.818-05:002011-01-10T14:10:44.818-05:00To AC and Greg,
As I read your exchanges, I see t...To AC and Greg,<br /><br />As I read your exchanges, I see the respectfulness and a high level/degree of civility in your disagreement. As I read your comments, it's real hard to know that you really even disagree much at all.<br /><br />That said, I think both of you are correct in your assessments. <br /><br />I think Greg is right when he says the level of discourse needs to be toned down.LA Sunsethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00445498119590721449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-26387198102750162172011-01-10T13:08:08.841-05:002011-01-10T13:08:08.841-05:00Greg, heated rhetoric at times is the by-product o...Greg, heated rhetoric at times is the by-product of a free press and free society with speech rights. As can be seen by that goofy bill proposed by the PA congressman, the solutions to such tragedies can be tragic themselves. <br /><br />I gave the sheriff a little break on his presser Saturday because of the shock of the day, but he's out there this morning saying the same thing with A.C. McCloudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04961702447997409190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-40754541314227405242011-01-10T08:57:19.472-05:002011-01-10T08:57:19.472-05:00AC: Greg, what happened to the president going out...AC: <i>Greg, what happened to the president going out and saying "we must not rush to judgment here"? I think it was even MORE appropriate in this event than with Major Hasan, since almost everyone knew he had become a jihadist on the day of the event, and we are fighting them all over the world.</i><br /><br />The President handled this one much better than the Hassan matter. BTW, theGreghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13598103358345060855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-87614979004712020532011-01-09T17:36:45.348-05:002011-01-09T17:36:45.348-05:00AC, I agree that he was likely grieving and I do s...AC, I agree that he was likely grieving and I do sincerely give him my sympathies for the loss of his friends. <br /><br />I don't think though that this was a statement made at the scene in a fit of emotion. They were prepared remarks and he came out later and stood by them. <br /><br />He has a responsibility to remain professional. <br /><br />I also agree that the internet can be a scary Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02467510776931664234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-9914982366673704462011-01-09T16:48:25.029-05:002011-01-09T16:48:25.029-05:00Chuck, I can see where he might let his guard down...Chuck, I can see where he might let his guard down after losing friends, and let his anger get the best of him, but yes, it was irresponsible to come out and speculate about the motivation of this lunatic. It's not in his job description. Had the shooter been a Muslim yelling about Allah I doubt the sheriff would have been saying stuff about going over and leveling Mecca, etc.A.C. McCloudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04961702447997409190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-31523406059484197552011-01-09T16:45:12.432-05:002011-01-09T16:45:12.432-05:00Greg, what happened to the president going out and...Greg, what happened to the president going out and saying "we must not rush to judgment here"? I think it was even MORE appropriate in this event than with Major Hasan, since almost everyone knew he had become a jihadist on the day of the event, and we are fighting them all over the world.<br /><br />It's the hypocrisy in this unbalanced media environment that produces some of the A.C. McCloudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04961702447997409190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-15446713948960649322011-01-09T16:21:14.960-05:002011-01-09T16:21:14.960-05:00Came across your blog through I Hate the Media. G...Came across your blog through I Hate the Media. Good stuff. Keep it up!Kip Hookerhttp://www.thevitaminpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-84843523350730695582011-01-09T14:38:01.329-05:002011-01-09T14:38:01.329-05:00Thanks for your view on this, rational and correct...Thanks for your view on this, rational and correct I believe. <br /><br />Someone, maybe AOW, said that they believe this does Palin in as to a presidential run. While I like Palin and think she would be a good president, and I'm not in the "she is unelectable" crowd, I think she probably either won't run. I could always be wrong.<br /><br />We see from this how the Left Right Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18274108313586611205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-62710603337619555672011-01-09T13:32:35.034-05:002011-01-09T13:32:35.034-05:00Greg said:
Talking about taking the country back ...Greg said:<br /><br /><i>Talking about taking the country back through revolution, saying Obama is setting up "FEMA camps" to facilitate his communist takeover (Glenn Beck), talking about mind-control (Jesse Ventura), showing up at political rallies with signs such as "The Tree of Liberty Must Be Refreshed From Time to Time...."</i><br /><br />There is an air of impending doomAlways On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-39549791310202507912011-01-09T13:21:59.442-05:002011-01-09T13:21:59.442-05:00A.C., I thought the Sheriff's comments were in...A.C., I thought the Sheriff's comments were inappropriate. They seemed like he was airing political beliefs. A law enforcement official has no business doing this. <br /><br /><i>“We have become the capital, the mecca for prejudice and bigotry.”</i><br /><br />Agree with him or not, what the hell was a Sheriff doing making a statement like this while investigating a shooting? <br /><br />His Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02467510776931664234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-2082678333880866492011-01-09T13:17:00.009-05:002011-01-09T13:17:00.009-05:00I think the thing we need to consider here is that...I think the thing we need to consider here is that whether they are of the loony left or loony right, anarchists are of the same mind and goal. The only difference between the two is the reasons they are anarchists. They use the same tactics and the same methods to achieve the same results, all the while they blame the other loony fringe. <br /><br />We in the middle are the ones that get caught LA Sunsethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00445498119590721449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-91512563410562488792011-01-09T12:15:51.432-05:002011-01-09T12:15:51.432-05:00Whatever the facts turn out to be, the Sheriff is ...Whatever the facts turn out to be, the Sheriff is right. Talking about taking the country back through revolution, saying Obama is setting up "FEMA camps" to facilitate his communist takeover (Glenn Beck), talking about mind-control (Jesse Ventura), showing up at political rallies with signs such as "The Tree of Liberty Must Be Refreshed From Time to Time...." Some Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13598103358345060855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-15555838440169586082011-01-09T11:38:34.654-05:002011-01-09T11:38:34.654-05:00Anyway, my point is that the Pima Co. Sheriff'...<i>Anyway, my point is that the Pima Co. Sheriff's statement that opposing policy with anger and velied threats is harmful to our Democracy. I happen to agree with him.</i><br /><br />We all agree with that. But as sheriff he has no business speculating as to motive before all the interrogations are done unless he knows something the public does not. And if so, he still needs to be quiet A.C. McCloudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04961702447997409190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-14780593034634485232011-01-09T11:23:49.937-05:002011-01-09T11:23:49.937-05:00sorry for the multiple posts.sorry for the multiple posts.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13598103358345060855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-24116380403536337662011-01-09T11:20:21.651-05:002011-01-09T11:20:21.651-05:00Yes, we don't know his political orientation, ...Yes, we don't know his political orientation, <i>if any</i>. From information reported on his youtube videos, he appears deranged. He rails against belief in God, the currency, and "mind control through grammar." Completely weird.<br /><br />However, I thought what the Pima Co. Sheriff had to say last night was important. He mentioned that rhetoric implying or inciting violence Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13598103358345060855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-78090370051004970102011-01-09T10:07:16.458-05:002011-01-09T10:07:16.458-05:00LA,
Let's not take this lying down. A nation i...LA,<br /><i>Let's not take this lying down. A nation is at stake here and this is but one way they can derail it further.</i><br /><br />I'm with you there.<br /><br />I'm sure that my students and I will discuss this story in detail in our next American Government class.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-79665859910216365852011-01-09T10:06:13.176-05:002011-01-09T10:06:13.176-05:00More and more information is seeping out about Lou...More and more information is seeping out about Loughner. It seems that he was kicked out of community college and not allowed back in until a mental-health evaluation was done.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-49872124362193602692011-01-09T09:47:34.410-05:002011-01-09T09:47:34.410-05:00Very well written.
Since he appears to be a lefti...Very well written.<br /><br />Since he appears to be a leftist loon, it will be the act of a mentally ill person. If he were a right-winger, it would have been political. <br /><br />This whole thing smelled from the beginning. She didn't seem to be a target for someone from the right. If she were a little more right of center, she may have been someone I would have voted for. <br /><br />Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02467510776931664234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-42566535090053256492011-01-09T08:45:03.178-05:002011-01-09T08:45:03.178-05:00Thanks.... please help get the message out on this...Thanks.... please help get the message out on this. Let's not take this lying down. A nation is at stake here and this is but one way they can derail it further.LA Sunsethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00445498119590721449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-92114454681327698762011-01-09T08:28:21.509-05:002011-01-09T08:28:21.509-05:00LA,
Excellent post!
I'll add a link to it in ...LA,<br />Excellent post!<br /><br />I'll add a link to it in my post.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.com