tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post6847558931937847338..comments2023-12-29T21:34:44.579-05:00Comments on Political Yen/Yang: In Their Own WordsLA Sunsethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00445498119590721449noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-67091200254127553172007-07-05T11:47:00.000-04:002007-07-05T11:47:00.000-04:00When I attended the lecture by Dr. Tawfik Hamid, M...When I attended the lecture by Dr. Tawfik Hamid, Muslim reformer, on June 29, I gained some insights I hadn't previously understood, although I had some inklings. See <A HREF="http://alwaysonwatch2.blogspot.com/2007/07/small-inept-attacks-have-significance.html" REL="nofollow">this</A>. The emphasis on damnation in hell and the Islamic path to eternal life is so significant as motivation for Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-84442284560006897982007-07-05T11:43:00.000-04:002007-07-05T11:43:00.000-04:00Several verses in the Koran promote acts of terror...Several verses in the Koran promote acts of terror against any who are not Muslim. And in the name of Allah.<BR/><BR/>Really, the matter is quite simple, isn't it?Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-74117309532103444502007-07-05T05:16:00.000-04:002007-07-05T05:16:00.000-04:00AC,//Radical Islam seems more like a cult than any...AC,<BR/><BR/><EM>//Radical Islam seems more like a cult than anything else.//</EM><BR/><BR/>You mean something like, the Manson family gone global?LA Sunsethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00445498119590721449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-74299380438597271882007-07-04T10:30:00.000-04:002007-07-04T10:30:00.000-04:00Radical Islam seems more like a cult than anything...Radical Islam seems more like a cult than anything else. It's always the weak-minded who end up blowing themselves up. <BR/><BR/>The Barbary Pirates claimed they were raiding ships in the name of Allah, when in fact they were raiding ships for booty and using that excuse to ease their guilt, increase their treasury. There are some differences with today but by and large the people blowing A.C. McCloudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04961702447997409190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-41421836898315911382007-07-03T15:28:00.000-04:002007-07-03T15:28:00.000-04:00Hi Anonim,//As for the "powerful art of persuasion...Hi Anonim,<BR/><BR/><EM>//As for the "powerful art of persuasion" and "sword," bear in mind that, to the fundamentalist, these two are one and the same. //</EM> <BR/><BR/>Whereas persuasion consists of a seller selling an idea and a buyer making a decision to buy it or not, one that uses the sword is not a persuader, but a coercer. <BR/><BR/>You state well that these people see it in the same LA Sunsethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00445498119590721449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-53800919362637614232007-07-03T14:01:00.000-04:002007-07-03T14:01:00.000-04:00If Zakaria thinks that the reason people join is "...If Zakaria thinks that the reason people join is "alienation, humiliation, & disempowerment" then he is indeed totally wrong. While there are undoubtedly some jihadis this describes, there are just TOO MANY it does not describe to use it as the general rule.<BR/><BR/>Eg., bin Laden, born into the elite of his country with more money than God. His right-hand man, a physician. The would-be Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-12256503736132235792007-07-03T13:07:00.000-04:002007-07-03T13:07:00.000-04:00greg- the reasons he cites for people adhering to ...greg- the reasons he cites for people adhering to extremist movements were <I>alienation, humiliation, & disempowerment</I>. <BR/><BR/>much analysis has been done on this taking place within the middle east under dictatorial-type regimes as well as within muslim minority groups in europe (however, much less in the u.s.).<BR/><BR/>his recipe for improving this situation is to find ways of making Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-25562961991228477742007-07-03T13:06:00.000-04:002007-07-03T13:06:00.000-04:00Hello LA.//All should be able to advance their mes...Hello LA.<BR/><BR/>//<I>All should be able to advance their message using the powerful art of persuasion, not by the sword. And all should be free to accept or reject those messages, without [f]ear and regret.</I>//<BR/><BR/>Amen to the "without fear and regret" part. As for the "powerful art of persuasion" and "sword," bear in mind that, to the fundamentalist, these two are one and the same. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-45430475132522147752007-07-03T12:34:00.000-04:002007-07-03T12:34:00.000-04:00Ugh, too bad I can't edit my post. Nix the refere...Ugh, too bad I can't edit my post. Nix the reference to the "blame America crowd". I can't remember anything specific he said along those lines.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-76573447538606745792007-07-03T12:32:00.000-04:002007-07-03T12:32:00.000-04:00MsM, Zakaria doesn't tell us why people join a mur...MsM, Zakaria doesn't tell us why people join a murderous death cult, only what we can do to beat it. I agree with him that islamic supremacism is so internally flawed that it is bound to destroy itself. But he isn't specific about how to take advantages of those flaws. Other comments by him make me generally dismiss him as one of the "blame America" crowd.<BR/><BR/>In other articles by him, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-90957434876635853512007-07-03T10:54:00.000-04:002007-07-03T10:54:00.000-04:00CORRECTIONwithout hear and regret.should read:with...CORRECTION<BR/><BR/><EM>without hear and regret.</EM><BR/><BR/>should read:<BR/><BR/>without <B>fear</B> and regret.LA Sunsethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00445498119590721449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-61966866612925443132007-07-03T10:45:00.000-04:002007-07-03T10:45:00.000-04:00It's the ideology. That's how they get people to c...<I>It's the ideology. That's how they get people to commit suicide while murdering women & children. </I><BR/><BR/>greg- yes, we won't be seeing eye to eye either ;)<BR/><BR/>i agree that it's the ideology, but question what is driving them to adopt such ideology. the only way to get to the root of the problem is to make the ideology less appealing.<BR/><BR/>as i brought up on the other blog, iAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-80953964411267510682007-07-03T10:44:00.000-04:002007-07-03T10:44:00.000-04:00MsM,//i wonder what sparked this post... ;)//I'll ...MsM,<BR/><BR/><EM>//i wonder what sparked this post... ;)//</EM><BR/><BR/>I'll never tell ;)<BR/><BR/><EM>//we probably won't see eye to eye on this topic//</EM><BR/><BR/>Maybe, maybe not. Let's look at it.<BR/><BR/><EM>//a theocracy would let them set the rules, instead of the current powers that be. claiming god as the source of your 'rules' is a great road to unlimited power (medieval church, LA Sunsethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00445498119590721449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-73457962601900112932007-07-03T10:37:00.000-04:002007-07-03T10:37:00.000-04:00ms. miami: I know that, for some reason only liber...ms. miami: I know that, for some reason only liberals understand, it would make you feel better if we could blame islamic supremacism on colonialism or some other western crime against the muslim masses. But the fact is, anyone who knows bin Laden will tell you he is a sincerely "pious" man, a "devoted Muslim". <BR/><BR/>And what's the first thing you hear about any terrorist after he has Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-2266252213285513182007-07-03T10:17:00.000-04:002007-07-03T10:17:00.000-04:00las- hmmm, i wonder what sparked this post... ;)a...las- hmmm, i wonder what sparked this post... ;)<BR/><BR/>again, we probably won't see eye to eye on this topic, but i'll just pose these questions: why do these extremist groups want a theocracy? why are some of these groups holding up the 10th century as a model?<BR/><BR/>a theocracy would let them set the rules, instead of the current powers that be. claiming god as the source of your 'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10276952.post-37619191585874490342007-07-03T10:08:00.000-04:002007-07-03T10:08:00.000-04:00the real engine of our violence: Islamic theology....<I>the real engine of our violence: Islamic theology.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Like, duh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com