Wednesday, April 20, 2011

Is Trump A Democratic Plant?

Much has been said over the past few weeks about Donald Trump's flirtations with a Presidential candidacy. And much has been thought. But what have we gleaned from this brand name marketeer and what makes him so intriguing?

I have read and heard much from people who say Trump is saying what everyone else is thinking. He has a successful billion dollar trademark and a successful TV show that needs little promotion, and yet, here he comes trotting onto the political scene saying things that many of us on the blogs have been saying for months now. So what?

His central focal point is the birth certificate. While I have some questions as to why the President will not show it and be done with it, it didn't seem to matter much during the campaign. And to me, it has become a non-issue at this point in the game. People voted for him anyway and here we are, stuck with an inept and dishonest President who was the most ill-prepared of any in modern history.

At this point in time, we have 10% unemployment, gas prices threatening to reach $5/gallon by vacation season, and a new war that we lost in two weeks because we didn't have any set objectives. We have watched a stimulus package fail, exponential multiplication of debt, rising deficits, and have been forced to listen to sophomoric and juvenile excuses for all of it. (He inherited it. If he hadn't been in charge, there is no telling how horrible things would be right now. If only the GOP would lie down and accept total defeat, we could have been on our way to recovery by now, etc.)

So here we are, we are quickly becoming the laughing stock of the free world and Trump is worried about a piece of paper. Notice how the media loves to jump on people who raise the question of the birth certificate, but ignore the real issues that I just mentioned?

I know Trump has raised many of these important issues in his interviews in passing, but the focus the media wants to center on is the birth certificate. This is because they cannot defend the other more serious items at hand, and would rather divert attention to the birther issue as a smoke screen. There are no answers they can serve up as plausible explanations for Obama's overt and obvious failure.

So, distraction becomes the strategy.

Enter the 2012 election season. Everyone wants to know who can beat Obama before anyone actually declares. And with all of the failures brought on by this Administration, the fear is that someone who resembles what the people want and need will rise up out of the ashes and send Obama back to Chicago, as a one-term President. This is something the MSM cannot bear to think about, so this is why they are jumping on Trump.

To help with this illusion, we have Public Policy Polling.

It is a Democratic hack organization that skews polls to suit the Democratic Party's agenda and is an organization that cannot seem to afford a real website, so it uses a Blogger/Blogspot site for the dissemination of its propaganda. (I know I have one too, but I am a just a bozo with a blog. They want to be known as a valid and reputable polling organization that is fair and unbiased. You figure out the difference.)

So after all of this hullabaloo about Trump and his outrageous commentary, here comes a poll by PPP that shows Trump leading the GOP. (See it here in the PDF)

Trump leads with 26% over Huckabee’s 17%, Romney’s 15%, Newt Gingrich’s 11%,
Palin’s 8%, Ron Paul’s 5%, and Tim Pawlenty and Michele Bachmann’s 4%.

So after taking to the airwaves decrying the lack of a birth certificate, Trump is 9% above the nearest contender. But wait, there's more:

23% of these voters say they would not be willing to vote for a candidate who stated
clearly that Obama was born in the U.S. 38% say they would, and a 39% plurality are
not sure. Among the hardcore birthers, Trump leads with 37%, almost three times as
much support as anyone else. He comes in only third at 17% with those who are fine
with a candidate that thinks the President was born in the country. Romney, who recently stated he believes Obama is a citizen, leads with 23% with that group but gets only 10% with birthers.


Take Trump out of the equation, and the field is more muddled. Huckabee leads with 22% over Romney’s 16%, Gingrich’s 15%, Palin’s 12%, Paul’s 8%, Pawlenty’s and Bachmann’s 6%, and Haley Barbour’s 3%. In this and other variations of the potential field, Palin and Huckabee are the favorites of birthers. Trump pulls the least support from Romney of any of the candidates.

With this information as it is presented ans as tempting as it is to believe, I am not sure Trump is a plant. But he is his own opportunist and at least, an opportunity that the Dems may want to exploit.

Here is a poll by Rasmussen that shows why:

President Obama leads Donald Trump by 15 percentage points in a hypothetical 2012 match-up, but the president is unable to top the 50% level of support even against an opponent some are deriding as a joke.

Now, take a look at the rest of the field and how they match up against Obama. It is murky, but Huckabee seems to match up best at this point in time. (But again, he's not even declared.)

So why would the Dems like this information to be counted as real? 

Never mind that Trump has been a pocket liner of a lot of Dems over the years. Let's look at this from a more prudent perspective and analyze this properly:

Now is the time for fund-raising for candidates. How much money a candidate can raise often depends upon these early polls. Trump will not need to raise money, but the others will. By making Trump look like he is the clear cut front-runner, it hinders the candidates that have a real chance of beating Obama from raising the necessary cash.

Trump toys with the idea on the air and gets a big stir going. He sets up a wedge issue in which the GOP can get distracted. He shuts down the flow of money for otherwise viable candidates.

Meanwhile, Trump gets free publicity by marketing the final episode of his TV show as the forum in which he will announce, one way or another. And Obama keeps raising money for the general election, because it looks like he has no primary challenge at this point.

He may not be a plant in the literal sense, but he is a gift that the PPP and the Dems have managed to manipulate to their benefit. It is a well laid trap that many Republican and conservatives are falling for, hook, line, and sinker.

So the next time you hear someone you know sing the praises of how The Donald says what everyone else is thinking, you might want to tell them what the Dems are thinking right now. Because now that Palin is down in the polls, they need to elevate someone they think they can trounce.... or Obama is history in 2012.


Always On Watch said...

I have my own theory about that birth certificate: Obama of Kenya is not listed as the father on the original certificate; rather, Frank Marshall Davis is.

Okay, so why does the above matter? Obama garnered and continues to garner millions of dollars from Dreams of My Father. If he did so with malice aforethought, he has perpetrated a huge fraud.

Just my thoughts after a long and weary day.

LASunsett said...

I would not be at all surprised, AOW. Almost everything about this guy has been based on premeditation and fraud. Never has there been so much cause to doubt the validity of anything he says or does.

Chuck said...

Your making some good points, a lot of them I have thought of myself.

I don't know what to think about Trump other than he is an embarrassment. Someone in the GOP needs to step up soon or he will be the story of this next election.

LASunsett said...


Like I have said before, this is the GOP's to lose. And if the conservatives allow this to happen because they all don't get what they want, we will have another 4 years of Obama with no accountability.

Always On Watch said...

I keep coming back to those books that Obama supposedly wrote. It is not out of the realm of possibility that he wouldn't have gotten the nomination if those books hadn't been written and successfully marketed.

Ducky's here said...

He's all yours.

But cheer up, he's not running.

Ducky's here said...

Like I have said before, this is the GOP's to lose.

And with clown car filled with the likes of Michele Bachmann, Mike Huckleberry,Governor Olympics,Sarah Palin and Little Ricky Retardo you're a cinch to screw this one up.

See if you can pull Jeb out of mothballs and polish up the Bush name.

LASunsett said...


1. Wherever did you read in this post that I wanted him? I cannot see it, maybe you had a flashback from some bad acid you had in the 60s or 70s. It's not there.

2. I know you must be terribly saddened that this little experiment called Obama is a failure.

Three wars one won by Bush, one at a stalemate, and one is being lost (thank Obama for that one completely). Unemployment is still through the roof, gas is soaring. But McDonalds is hiring, nice job there.

Like pre-Mussolini Italy, the nation is a complete and utter mess because your idiot hero has screwed up everything he has touched. He has lied at every turn, hasn't kept one campaign promise. He gets caught and tries to lie his way out or scolds a reporter who calls him on it.

He surrounded himself with tax cheats, communistas, and every other kind of arrogant jerk there is, without an ounce of real world experience. He spends money like a drunken sailor and has no results to show for his efforts. He snatched GM from the rightful owners and gave it to the union..... and now it's dead in the water.

And you think the GOP has no chance to win with any of these people?

You are a real f..king comedian, aren't you?

Z said...

thank God Palin's down in the polls..she could have only maybe won half the country in the national election, anyway (and, even that's debatable today...if she could lose me who was a huge fan, she lost a LOT more, I assure you)...

As for Mr. Mike "We have to bring America back to Jesus" Huckabee...wait till the lefty media brings THAT video I've seen out of the mothballs.

AOW, I don't see why Obama's having an AMerican father is any big deal...not enough to pay almost 2 million to keep it quiet. This is all about Kenya and where he was born in my humble opinion. Sure, it might have been scandalous then if ol' Frank was his dad but why NOW in a world where it's considered cooler to NOT have married parents...? Anyway, this country'd celebrate a 'cool president' with an illegitimate background! Heck, they admire a liar, why not a bastard? We're that bad these days.

I don't think the GOP has a chance in HELL to win the coming election. Who the heck would vote for Pawlenty (it's scary to think there are enough money people who've told him they'd back him at THIS point let alone later...he's got NOTHING but milk toastery)..Gingrich will be made mincemeat of because of his past, Huckabee's bringing us to Jesus (which I approve of but more than half of this country does not, OR they do and feel it's inappropriate for a politician to have said that in public), Romney's dull as dirt and screwed up Mass's healthcare...Christie DOES have a chance but won't run; etc Who has some charisma, some excitement, youth, truth, intelligence..? RYAN, and he says he won't run, either.
With a lying, obama-protective media, with the HUGE amount of money Obama will have, with indoctrinated nuts voting and fraud rampant and a Justice Dept which looks the other way, and REpublicans scared of their shadows when it comes to the lefty press (unlike Trump), there's no chance in HELL we could take 2012.
I wish I was wrong.

But take heart, I've been known to be :-)

Z said...

Oops, LA...I guess you can just call me a comedian now, too!:-)

Tell me who you think could win?
I know Trump could, and I"d vote for Jack the Ripper over the America killer Obama.

A.C. McCloud said...

Nice analysis. I hadn't thought of the fund-raising block. My money is strong that Trump will wither back into TV Land at some point, just don't know what the goal is. Initial thought was he was trying to shine so much light as to eliminate the birther issue, clearing the path for the rest of them (he needs to get it done, if that's it). But you may be right.

As to the BC, I think the long form shows Obama, Sr. as the father, but I think Soetoro probably adopted Obama when he was a wee child. That would explain why Fukino said the document was "part typed, part handwritten". It would also explain why even he couldn't get a copy of the vital record, since often adoption BCs are sealed by a court.

Overall I am 99 percent sure Obama is a natural born citizen, and around 50 percent sure that he was adopted by Soetoro. When he changed the name back would be a question, but nothing else really makes sense to me.

LASunsett said...

Z, if the evangelical pious people like the one who used to frequent your blog would shut up and just go with it once the nominee has been selected, almost any one of these candidates could win. But by demonizing a candidate because he is a Mormon or not Christian enough (like the Dobsen bunch did last time), gave us McCain, which gave us Obama.

Romney could have won in 08. He may not have, but he could have. Now, that doesn't mean I am supportive of Romney. But if he were the nominee I wouldn't stay home and refuse to vote.

LASunsett said...


I think Trump is plugging his show. Nothing more. He is a media whore.

Mary Ellen said...

Yeah, just what we need in office, another Narcissist. Mark my words, Trump is going to screw any chance that a Republican will get into office. He said that if he does decide to run (have you any doubt?) and doesn't win the Republican nomination that he will run as an Independent. We all know how that will turn out. It's a free pass for Obama.

Someone needs to shut Trump up, and do it before he does any more damage than he already has.

That's my humble opinion, of course.

LASunsett said...

//Someone needs to shut Trump up, and do it before he does any more damage than he already has. //

I bet there are GOP hacks digging for dirt as we type these critiques.