Saturday, February 17, 2007

From A Democrat: Some Liberal Bloggers Are Immature

Really? One need only read the posts and comments of the Daily Kos to see that this is an accurate claim. Those of us that have been in the political blogosphere for any length of time have known this. But until now, a person that dared to state anything like this brought about immature accusations of being a neo-con and a right-wingnut, regardless of that person's political affiliation or personal ideology. Disagreeing with any Democrat that is dearly admired by the far-left, must automatically put a person into the GOP camp.

The man making this claim is Daniel Gerstein from the Politico and is a Democrat, himself. Here is the essay where he makes his case.

It uses the Edwards bloggers affair as the backdrop. But this kind of thing has been prevalent for a long time. Yes, I know that there are some right wing blogs that do the same thing. And I will say that I am not a fan of those, either. Criticizing ideas and arguing against open stances on specific issues is what politics are all about, and such is certainly fair game. But, when we look at the grand scheme of things, I have found very few liberal sites that I would care to visit on a regular basis, due to this level of immaturity displayed throughout.

Some exceptions to this rule are The Politico, Super Frenchie, The Daou Report, and The Carpetbagger Report, all of which are on the PYY blogroll. If there are any others that do not display this kind of sophomoric behavior, please leave a link and I will give them a look. If they are truly a mature and intelligent group, I may even blogroll them.

This article by Gerstein is worth a look, in its entirety. But one thing I would like to highlight, is this part:

The blogger bomb-throwing may be good for inflaming the activist base, and, as they demonstrated in the 2006 Lieberman-Lamont Senate primary race in Connecticut, for occasionally blowing up the opposition. It’s not bad for bullying your friends, either, as the liberal blogosphere did last week in pressuring Edwards to not fire the two bloggers who penned the offensive anti-religious posts.

But the typical blog mix of insults and incitements is just not an effective strategy for persuading people outside of your circle of belief – be they moderate Democrats, moderate Republicans, or the swelling number of independents – to join your cause. In fact, it’s far more likely to alienate than propagate them.

Something else most liberal bloggers fail to appreciate – we as Democrats can’t afford to repel those middle of the road, largely non-partisan voters.


Bingo. I have been saying this for five years now, much to the chagrin of many.

But now, it comes from a liberal Democrat that understands this principle. And although I may disagree with Mr. Gerstein at various points in future posts, allow me to say that he has earned my respect by communicating this. PYY salutes him for his courage to say what many know to be true, but are afraid to state for fear of being shouted down by the angry and immature.

4 comments:

Always On Watch Two said...

the typical blog mix of insults and incitements is just not an effective strategy for persuading people outside of your circle of belief...

Blogging is an odd medium--part diary, part news, part commentary, etc. Bloggers tend to forget that they are in a public forum.

But some stories which the msm simply won't cover are available in the blogosphere.

A.C. McCloud said...

I think blogs generally represent the hate and frustration of their readers, but those who peddle hate, lies, distortions or slander threaten the rep of all of us.

But some stories which the msm simply won't cover are available in the blogosphere.

Agree 100 percent, and that probably represents our greatest contribution to the public discourse--an ability to fact-check and balance the MSM. If we're seen as a bunch of playground school kids the MSM can brush off any criticism as irrelevant based on source, regardless of the site.

LASunsett said...

AOW

//Blogging is an odd medium--part diary, part news, part commentary, etc. Bloggers tend to forget that they are in a public forum.//

Some of them, like these women that started this firestorm, also tend to forget that a little bit of common sense, self discipline, and personal responsibility goes s long way. The lesson the women should have learned here was, actions can affect future opportunities.

No doubt, this would have been the opportunity of a lifetime for them. Never mind, I am not closely aligned, nor am I a fan of John Edwards' politics. But these gals must understand, somthing here. They (outright) blew the chance to become known as legitimate political players.

What John Edwards should learn in all of this is, watch who you employ or it can ruin a golden opportunity. Before anything else, he should have had these girls checked out more thoroughly. Then, there should have been guidelines and standards defined. But more then anything else, when the first complaint came in, he should have fired them. He didn't. Instead he bowed to the mean wing of this netroots alliance and their pressure.

Honestly, I am not sure that any of them learned anything in this. All they have done is deflect responsibility to others involved in the situation.

One thing it does for me, it causes me to be thankful for the group that reads and comments here. All of you are the best.

LASunsett said...

AC,

//If we're seen as a bunch of playground school kids the MSM can brush off any criticism as irrelevant based on source, regardless of the site.//

I couldn't agree more.

The big boys would love nothing more than to shut down, or at least restrict the blogs and curb their free speech. They have the resources, many of us do not. All they need is an out-of-control blogosphere to solidify their cases against us all, in order to get at the ones that do not exercise good sense.